Robert De Mortimer1

M, #15161, b. circa 1197
Father*Roger De Mortimer1 b. c 1155, d. 24 Jun 1214
Mother*Isabel de Ferrieres1 b. c 1172, d. b 31 May 1252
ReferenceV9TF-VC
     Robert De Mortimer was born circa 1197 in Wigmore, Herefordshire, England.1 He was the son of Roger De Mortimer and Isabel de Ferrieres.1
Last Edited6 Aug 2003

Citations

  1. [S227] Samuel H. Sloan, ROYALFAM.GED (461 Peachstone Terrace, San Rafael CA: n.pub.). There are some wild errors in the data.

Aubrey Beauclerk1

M, #15162, b. 1711, d. 24 March 1740/41
Father*Charles Beauclerk1 b. 8 May 1670, d. 11 May 1726
Mother*Diana De Vere1 b. c 1675, d. 15 Jan 1741/42
Relationship11th cousin 8 times removed of Robert Michael Damon
Reference84QT-PV
     Aubrey Beauclerk was born in 1711 of Windsor, Berkshire, England.1 He was the son of Charles Beauclerk and Diana De Vere.1 Aubrey Beauclerk died on 24 March 1740/41.1
     Aubrey's father Charles Beauclerk died on 11 May 1726 in Bath, Somersetshire, England.1
Last Edited6 Aug 2003

Citations

  1. [S227] Samuel H. Sloan, ROYALFAM.GED (461 Peachstone Terrace, San Rafael CA: n.pub.). There are some wild errors in the data.

Son De Ferrers1

M, #15163, b. 1168
Father*Walkelin (William) De Ferrieres1 b. c 1140, d. a 31 Dec 1189
Mother*Sybil De Braose1 b. c 1157, d. a 5 Feb 1227/28
Reference84ZZ-XC
     Son De Ferrers was born in 1168 in England.1 He was the son of Walkelin (William) De Ferrieres and Sybil De Braose.1
Last Edited6 Aug 2003

Citations

  1. [S227] Samuel H. Sloan, ROYALFAM.GED (461 Peachstone Terrace, San Rafael CA: n.pub.). There are some wild errors in the data.

Gwladys 'Ddu' Verch Llewelyn1

F, #15164, b. circa 1205, d. 1251
Father*Llewelyn ap Iorwerth1 b. 1173, d. 11 Apr 1240
Mother*Tangwystl Verch Llywarch1 b. c 1168
ReferenceGLCF-TX
     Gwladys 'Ddu' Verch Llewelyn was born circa 1205 of Caernarvonshire, Wales.1 She was the daughter of Llewelyn ap Iorwerth and Tangwystl Verch Llywarch.1 Gwladys 'Ddu' Verch Llewelyn married Reginald De Braose, son of William De Braose and Maud (Matilda) De Saint Valery, before 1221 in Wales.1 Gwladys 'Ddu' Verch Llewelyn married Ralph De Mortimer, son of Roger De Mortimer and Isabel de Ferrieres, in 1230 in England.1 Gwladys 'Ddu' Verch Llewelyn died in 1251 in Windsor, Berkshire, England.1
      Llywelyn did not marry Joan until 1205 at the EARLIEST, or 1206, if you believe more detailed sources. Llywelyn did not receive the final (third) letter from the Pope declaring his betrothal to the daughter of the King of Man to be void until 1205. Giving a year for conception and birth, if one assumed Gwladys were daughter of Joan, she could not have been born earlier than 1206 or 1207. If she were older than eight or nine years old in 1215, she could not have been daughter of Joan. As I stated before, the marriage to Reginald de Braose in 1215 was one of political expediency, and not one where the were waiting for the girl to come of age (so to speak). You'd be relying heavily on the coincidence that Gwladys happened to be in that very narrow range between seven (before which age she could not even have been betrothed) and eight, or nine. Then we have Joan's son and heir David being born BY 1208 (gave homage in 1229). If Joan were indeed married in 1206, and David born in 1208 (he cannot have been born later if the law was followed), that is an awfully tight squeeze to put Gwladys's coincidental birth there. I still think the claim that Gwladys was daughter of Joan, and that she therefore MUST have been born in 1207--not before, not after--is doubtful. 'Paul C. Reed' In answer to your question, there was a clear and unambigious statement that Gladys Dhu was the daughter of Llywelyn and Joan in the chronicle of Adam of Usk. Adam knew the Mortimer family and presumably had access to their archives. While Adam is a late date witness and not altogether reliable, he is rather emphatic that Gladys was Joan's daughter. As for another late date testimony of the Mortimer family's descent from Llywelyn, I find the Visitation of the North prepared c. 1480-1500 states that 'Roger [recte Ralph] Mortemer duxit Gladiswiscam filiam principis Wallie.' [Reference: Surtees Society, vol. 144, published 1930, pg. 3. Presumably the point of reciting the extended Mortimer pedigree back to Prince Llywelyn is because the English descendants of the Mortimer family c. 1480-1500 believed that Gladys was the legitimate daughter of Prince Llywelyn, by his wife, Joan. Adam of Usk and the Visitation of the North aside, I believe the best evidence of Gladys Dhu's parentage is the fact that Gladys' father, Llywelyn, released two castles which he had in free marriage with his wife, Joan, to Gladys' husband, Ralph de Mortimer. I posted a transcript of Llywelyn's charter to Ralph de Mortimer on the newsgroup. If you need help finding the transcript, please let me know. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com If I read this right are you saying that as there was an ongoing dispute with the Mortimers over Knighton and Norton, Llywelyn may have decided to cut his losses and give away the properties with Gwladys. The pragmatic value of such an act would have overridden the issue of her maternity. It is my understanding that legally Llywellyn could have given the properties away with the consent of Joan, anyway. Also in 1229, Gwladys Dhu accompanied her brother as widow of Reginald de Braose for the purpose of negotiations in London for her to become bride of Ralph Mortimer? If this is the case, we cannot draw any conclusions about her maternity from this event. Cheers Rosie 'Rosie Bevan' Two major pieces of evidence point to Joan as being Gladys' mother. [GMacGen@aol.com] Giles tells us that Peter C. Bartrum's _Welsh Genealogies_ [table Gruffudd ap Cynan 4] gives the mother of Gwladys Ddu as Tangwystl. Here is what is shown in Peter C. Bartrum's Welsh Genealogies, page 446, Gruffudd ap Cynan 4: Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd m Margred f. Madog (Bl ap C 3) | Llywelyn d. 1240 (1) Joan d. King John m. 1205 (a) Tangwystl f. Llywarch Goch (LL. Ho. 1) | Gwladus Ddu d. 1251 (1) Reginald de Braose d. 1228 (2) Ralph II Mortimer d. 1246 Kenneth Harper Finton Editor and Publisher THE PLANTAGENET CONNECTION __________________________________________ HT Communications / PO Box 1401 / Arvada CO 80001 VOICE: 303-420-4888 FAX: 303-420-4845 http://HTCommunications.org/homepage.htm KHF333@AOL.com.1 She became the mother of Roger De Mortimer in 1221.1 Gwladys 'Ddu' Verch Llewelyn became the mother of Joan Mortimer circa 1223.1 Gwladys 'Ddu' Verch Llewelyn became the mother of Hugh Mortimer circa 1233.1 Gwladys 'Ddu' Verch Llewelyn became the mother of John De Mortimer circa 1235.1 Gwladys 'Ddu' Verch Llewelyn became the mother of Peter De Mortimer circa 1237.1 Gwladys 'Ddu' Verch Llewelyn became the mother of Isolda De Mortimer circa 1239.1 Gwladys 'Ddu' Verch's father Llewelyn ap Iorwerth died on 11 April 1240 in Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales.1 Gwladys 'Ddu' Verch Llewelyn became a widow with the death of her husband, Ralph De Mortimer on 6 August 1246 in Wigmore, Herefordshire, England.1

Family 1

Reginald De Braose b. 1178 or 1185?, d. 9 June 1228

Family 2

Ralph De Mortimer b. 1190, d. 6 August 1246
Children
Last Edited6 Apr 2010

Citations

  1. [S227] Samuel H. Sloan, ROYALFAM.GED (461 Peachstone Terrace, San Rafael CA: n.pub.). There are some wild errors in the data.

Ursula Stourton1

F, #15165, b. 1518, d. 4 September 1551
Father*William Stourton1
Mother*Elizabeth Dudley1
Reference9N4W-5N
     Ursula Stourton was born in 1518 of Stourton, Wiltshire, England.1 She was the daughter of William Stourton and Elizabeth Dudley.1 Ursula Stourton married Edward Clinton (Fiennes, son of Thomas (Fiennes) Clinton and Joan or Mary Poynings, on 15 June 1541 of Stourton, Wiltshire, England.1 Ursula Stourton died on 4 September 1551 in Lincolnshire, England.1
     She and Frances Clinton (Fiennes: Frances born after death of Elizabeth, his mother. Ursula Stourton became the mother of Henry Clinton (Fiennes in 1540.1 Ursula Stourton became the mother of Or Clinton Frances Fiennes circa 1542.1 Ursula Stourton became the mother of Edward Clinton circa 1544.1 Ursula Stourton became the mother of Edward Fiennes Clinton circa 1546.1 Ursula Stourton became the mother of Thomas Fiennes circa 1546.1 Ursula Stourton became the mother of Ann Clinton (Fiennes circa 1546.1 Ursula Stourton became the mother of Or Clinton Thomas Fiennes circa 1548.1 Ursula Stourton became the mother of Thomas Clinton (Fiennes in 1550.1 Ursula Stourton became the mother of Frances Clinton (Fiennes in 1553.1

Family

Edward Clinton (Fiennes b. 1513, d. 16 January 1585
Children
Last Edited26 Jan 2004

Citations

  1. [S227] Samuel H. Sloan, ROYALFAM.GED (461 Peachstone Terrace, San Rafael CA: n.pub.). There are some wild errors in the data.

Anna Sobieska1

F, #15166, b. circa 1632
Father*Jakob Sobieski1 b. 1573, d. 11 May 1646
Mother*Zofia Teofila Danilowiczowna1 b. 1607, d. 1661
Reference7QC1-Z1
     Anna Sobieska was born circa 1632 in L'vov, L'vov, Ukraine.1 She was the daughter of Jakob Sobieski and Zofia Teofila Danilowiczowna.1
Last Edited6 Aug 2003

Citations

  1. [S227] Samuel H. Sloan, ROYALFAM.GED (461 Peachstone Terrace, San Rafael CA: n.pub.). There are some wild errors in the data.

Landgrave Heinrich III 'der Reiche' (of Hesse-Marburg)1

M, #15167, b. 15 October 1441, d. 13 January 1483
ReferenceB3RP-9C
     Landgrave Heinrich III 'der Reiche' (of Hesse-Marburg) was born on 15 October 1441 of Spangenberg, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia.1 He married Countess Anna (of Katzenelnbogen) on 30 August 1458 in Katzenelnbogen, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia.1 Landgrave Heinrich III 'der Reiche' (of Hesse-Marburg) died on 13 January 1483 in Marburg, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia, at age 41.1 He was buried at St. Elisabethkirche, Marburg, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia.1
     He became the father of Prince Friedrich (of Hesse) circa 1459.1 Landgrave Heinrich III 'der Reiche' (of Hesse-Marburg) became the father of Prince Ludwig 'Der Jhungere' (of Hesse) circa 15 November 1460.1 Landgrave Heinrich III 'der Reiche' (of Hesse-Marburg) became the father of Princess Elisabeth (of Hesse-Marburg) in May 1466.1 Landgrave Heinrich III 'der Reiche' (of Hesse-Marburg) became the father of Landgrave Wilhelm III 'Der Jhungere' (of Hesse) circa 8 September 1471.1 Landgrave Heinrich III 'der Reiche' (of Hesse-Marburg) became the father of Princess Matilde (of Hesse) in July 1473.1 Landgrave Heinrich III 'der Reiche' (of Hesse-Marburg) became the father of Prince Heinrich (of Hesse) before 13 July 1474.1 Heinrich III 'der Reiche''s son Prince Ludwig 'Der Jhungere' (of Hesse) died on 1 July 1478.1

Family

Countess Anna (of Katzenelnbogen) b. 5 September 1443, d. 16 February 1494
Children
Last Edited6 Aug 2003

Citations

  1. [S227] Samuel H. Sloan, ROYALFAM.GED (461 Peachstone Terrace, San Rafael CA: n.pub.). There are some wild errors in the data.

Gloucestershire Census

F, #15168
Mother*UK Census (County)
     Gloucestershire Census was based in Gloucestershire, England. She was the daughter of UK Census (County).

Family 1

1871 UK Census b. 2 April 1871
Child

Family 2

1881 UK Census b. 2 April 1881
Child

Family 3

1851 UK Census b. 30 March 1851
Child

Family 4

1841 UK Census b. 6 June 1841
Child

Family 5

1861 UK Census b. 7 April 1861
Child

Family 6

1891 UK Census b. 3 April 1881
Child
Last Edited9 Jun 2010

Trahaearn ap Caradog1

M, #15169, b. circa 1030, d. 1081
ReferenceHPGB-0R
     Trahaearn ap Caradog was born circa 1030 of Arwystli, Montgomeryshire, Wales.1 He married Nest Verch Gruffudd.1 Trahaearn ap Caradog died in 1081 in Battle Carno, Arwystli, Montgomeryshire, Wales.1
     He became the father of Llywarch ap Trahaearn circa 1070.1 Trahaearn ap Caradog became the father of Meurig ap Trahaearn circa 1071.1 Trahaearn ap Caradog became the father of Griffri ap Trahaearn circa 1073.1 Trahaearn ap Caradog became the father of Owain ap Trahaearn circa 1074.1 Trahaearn ap Caradog became the father of Ednowain ap Trahaearn circa 1074.1 Trahaearn ap Caradog became the father of Madog ap Trahaearn circa 1076.1 Trahaearn ap Caradog became the father of Ieuan ap Trahaearn circa 1076.1

Family

Nest Verch Gruffudd b. circa 1061
Children
Last Edited6 Aug 2003

Citations

  1. [S227] Samuel H. Sloan, ROYALFAM.GED (461 Peachstone Terrace, San Rafael CA: n.pub.). There are some wild errors in the data.

George Robert Beauclerk1

M, #15170, b. 28 February 1803, d. 5 December 1871
Father*Charles George Beauclerk1 b. 20 Jan 1774, d. 25 Dec 1845
Mother*Emily Charlotte Ogilvie1 b. 12 May 1778, d. 22 Jan 1832
Relationship14th cousin 5 times removed of Robert Michael Damon
Reference84QR-61
     George Robert Beauclerk was born on 28 February 1803 of King's Castle, Down, Ireland.1 He was the son of Charles George Beauclerk and Emily Charlotte Ogilvie.1 George Robert Beauclerk died on 5 December 1871 at age 68.1
     George Robert's mother Emily Charlotte Ogilvie died on 22 January 1832.1 George Robert's father Charles George Beauclerk died on 25 December 1845.1
Last Edited6 Aug 2003

Citations

  1. [S227] Samuel H. Sloan, ROYALFAM.GED (461 Peachstone Terrace, San Rafael CA: n.pub.). There are some wild errors in the data.